Comments on: Interview with the Owner of Premium Mod http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/ Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:05:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Leland http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9085 Leland Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:18:40 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9085 I'm closing this comment thread now at an even 200. Vent on Twitter or some other site if you feel the need, this has gone on long enough here. I’m closing this comment thread now at an even 200. Vent on Twitter or some other site if you feel the need, this has gone on long enough here.

]]> By: mkjones http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9084 mkjones Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:51:25 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9084 He sure does. He was throwing back pints at WordCampUK with Mike Little and co :) He sure does. He was throwing back pints at WordCampUK with Mike Little and co :)

]]> By: mkjones http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9083 mkjones Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:44:53 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9083 As a WP custom themer I like this idea as it gives me the opportunity to delve into some code I wouldn't normally see without paying for it. I do however think its taking liberties with the GPL, but its fully 'legal' so why not :) As a WP custom themer I like this idea as it gives me the opportunity to delve into some code I wouldn’t normally see without paying for it.

I do however think its taking liberties with the GPL, but its fully ‘legal’ so why not :)

]]> By: Conorp http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9081 Conorp Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:42:55 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9081 I'm not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its providing more themes for the community, on the other it is ruining themes by taking out the features that make them great. Take a look at the Coffee Lite theme based on the Coffee Break theme. Mod we made from the original theme: - Removed subheader bar for minimal look. - Minimal theme options. - Widgetized footer. From those Mods you basically took away what was good about the theme. The themes big selling point was that big sub header bar, and by making Minimal theme options, you end up making it harder for the end user. Adding a Widgetized footer is a step in the right direction, however this is the only actual step forward in this theme, everything else has been reductions from the original. Conorp I’m not sure how I feel about this. On one hand its providing more themes for the community, on the other it is ruining themes by taking out the features that make them great. Take a look at the Coffee Lite theme based on the Coffee Break theme.

Mod we made from the original theme:
- Removed subheader bar for minimal look.
- Minimal theme options.
- Widgetized footer.

From those Mods you basically took away what was good about the theme. The themes big selling point was that big sub header bar, and by making Minimal theme options, you end up making it harder for the end user.

Adding a Widgetized footer is a step in the right direction, however this is the only actual step forward in this theme, everything else has been reductions from the original.

Conorp

]]> By: acosmin http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9080 acosmin Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:46:19 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9080 What PM did, doesn't look like an improvement to Woo's themes. Deleting a sidebar, changing the logo,removing the copyright link and releasing the theme for free takes about 5 minutes to do. This is why GPL sucks big time as a license for premium wp themes, because people like the guys from PM abuse it. My free themes are under GPL license, as for my premium themes I don't see why I should release them with this license at this moment. What PM did, doesn’t look like an improvement to Woo’s themes. Deleting a sidebar, changing the logo,removing the copyright link and releasing the theme for free takes about 5 minutes to do.

This is why GPL sucks big time as a license for premium wp themes, because people like the guys from PM abuse it.

My free themes are under GPL license, as for my premium themes I don’t see why I should release them with this license at this moment.

]]> By: Premium Mod http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9076 Premium Mod Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:42:46 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9076 We expect them to provide support for 'paying customer' (not non-paying), that is - if our users need support, they go and sign up with WooThemes support plan. And no, WooThemes current stand is - they won't even provide support for their own customer under our theme. Oh well. We expect them to provide support for ‘paying customer’ (not non-paying), that is – if our users need support, they go and sign up with WooThemes support plan.

And no, WooThemes current stand is – they won’t even provide support for their own customer under our theme. Oh well.

]]> By: David Coveney http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9075 David Coveney Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:24:12 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9075 Uhm, if you want to contribute to WordPress.org themes then you, all your themes, and all themes and sites that you link to, have to be GPL. <a href="http://spectacu.la/wordpressorg-pull-200-gpl-themes/" rel="nofollow">The great theme withdrawal of 2008</a> showed the Automattic (and to a degree, that of the WordPress.org developers) stance. At the end of the day, lots of people run business around WordPress. And so does Matt and Automattic. Matt has reasons over and beyond 'for the good of the community' to take the stance he has taken. And that's his choice - he's entitled to it. There will always be trouble in any environment where you mix money and volunteering, even if those who make the money are happy to make contributions for free. I think all or most of the themes clubs have high quality themes available for free, but for some that will never be enough. Uhm, if you want to contribute to WordPress.org themes then you, all your themes, and all themes and sites that you link to, have to be GPL. The great theme withdrawal of 2008 showed the Automattic (and to a degree, that of the WordPress.org developers) stance.

At the end of the day, lots of people run business around WordPress. And so does Matt and Automattic. Matt has reasons over and beyond ‘for the good of the community’ to take the stance he has taken. And that’s his choice – he’s entitled to it.

There will always be trouble in any environment where you mix money and volunteering, even if those who make the money are happy to make contributions for free. I think all or most of the themes clubs have high quality themes available for free, but for some that will never be enough.

]]> By: Adii http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9074 Adii Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:06:27 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9074 Redistribution adds no real value. That's just my opinion and I don't think that the GPL was designed purely to promote redistribution. Instead I think the GPL was created to foster innovation & improvement. Again - that's just a personal opinion and I won't necessarily let that influence any business decisions. Redistribution adds no real value. That’s just my opinion and I don’t think that the GPL was designed purely to promote redistribution. Instead I think the GPL was created to foster innovation & improvement.

Again – that’s just a personal opinion and I won’t necessarily let that influence any business decisions.

]]> By: Josh http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9070 Josh Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:33:06 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9070 From someone who is a woothemes member and purchased thesis, both companies are superb in what they offer as far as support. From someone who is a woothemes member and purchased thesis, both companies are superb in what they offer as far as support.

]]> By: Josh http://www.themelab.com/2009/11/08/interview-with-the-owner-of-premium-mod/#comment-9069 Josh Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:29:29 +0000 http://www.themelab.com/?p=1062#comment-9069 I'm laughing to myself when I see comments like this. Woo Themes charges too much? LOL. Woo Themes in their framework alone saves me dozens of hours on each freelance project I tackle. Look as some of my freelance work and you wont be able to tell I use woo themes at all. I use Woo mostly for the framework they've created in each theme. $20/month to save me 40+ hours a month. Talk about value, service, and most of all tons of support. As a freelance developer, Woo Themes has become an essential part of my business model. Adii, Magnus, Mark, and the rest of the team, keep up the good work. Hopefully I’m laughing to myself when I see comments like this. Woo Themes charges too much? LOL. Woo Themes in their framework alone saves me dozens of hours on each freelance project I tackle.

Look as some of my freelance work and you wont be able to tell I use woo themes at all. I use Woo mostly for the framework they’ve created in each theme. $20/month to save me 40+ hours a month. Talk about value, service, and most of all tons of support. As a freelance developer, Woo Themes has become an essential part of my business model.

Adii, Magnus, Mark, and the rest of the team, keep up the good work. Hopefully

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